Thank you so much for addressing this. I was dismayed to see the (former, I guess? not keeping up) Jars of Clay member attaching himself to a 'pastor with pride'. JoC man must have never understood what it means to be a clay container carrying something that is Not Self. Sad.
And I couldn't help but note the Stephen Covey (7 Habits of Highly Effective People) fragment in the FAQ list: "seek first to understand then to be understood". That little phrase is doing a lot of work: in context it seems to mean, "If you hold an orthodox view of human sexuality and marriage, you are required to change your mind."
My heart is sick as this 'church' is in my hometown's backyard. What truly blows my mind is that this uber woke gathering has stripped the Gospel of its healing power.
"Today, we must change the narrative, seeking to understand more than to be understood… The Way of Jesus is better than a “left & right” or so-called “middle”. This is the Way."
On WHAT do they find a new Jesus Way, especially if they remove His death for sin from their 'narrative'? If no one is in need of saving, WHAT is the point? Based on what will they walk on into lah-lah-never-land of community when there is no law, no conviction or humility before God? It's deeply disturbing to see yet another self-worshiping 'church' in our city.
Many of the locals protested the downtown Pride Parade in Franklin - to no avail.
I'm also fascinated why anyone would want to attend such a gathering. If there's no call to change, no Scripture to defend and be held accountable to, if it's just another feel good about yourself meeting, I'd stay home.
"Church LARPing" is on the mark. You can tell by the way he floats the name "St. Luminous" that his definition of a "saint" is a kind of figure you dress up as for your local Renn Fest.
"If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!" (Matt 6:23b)
The fight for the Apostolic Faith will never cease until our Lord Christ returns. We are after all the church militant. Thanks for putting the spot light on this parish. Now is the time for discipline. The test is before the ACNA. Get it done with expediency and firmness. If this parish is allowed to remain the rot of unfaithfulness will fester.
C4SO MUST be jettisoned from the ACNA in order for the ACNA to maintain its legitimacy as a true Anglican province. The ACNA MUST center itself in the one true and holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Anything else is purely a lie which only serves to decieve the masses and placate the sinful.
Somebody is going to have to talk to Bishop Hunter about this parish, although from having listened to quite a few of Bishop Hunter's Peace Talks podcast, he seems to be right in line with them. Luminous Church has no business being in the ACNA and something needs to be done with them. Who will do it and how are two big questions.
We need to be earnestly praying for God’s selection of our new Arch Bishop in our upcoming election. Not sure exactly when it is but it’s this month. Isn’t this part of his job? This must be dealt with.
"When you skip the Law, of course you then have to skip the Gospel." I knew this, but had to re-learn it with tears back before the turn of the century when Frank Griswold's oleaginous approach to the gospel and the nature of God began to affect the fellowship I had with a close Episcopal friend. I think she still wonders why I couldn't bring myself to see our differences as merely another thing that could be swallowed up by a God who was bigger than all our various views of things.
Thank you so much for addressing this. I was dismayed to see the (former, I guess? not keeping up) Jars of Clay member attaching himself to a 'pastor with pride'. JoC man must have never understood what it means to be a clay container carrying something that is Not Self. Sad.
And I couldn't help but note the Stephen Covey (7 Habits of Highly Effective People) fragment in the FAQ list: "seek first to understand then to be understood". That little phrase is doing a lot of work: in context it seems to mean, "If you hold an orthodox view of human sexuality and marriage, you are required to change your mind."
My heart is sick as this 'church' is in my hometown's backyard. What truly blows my mind is that this uber woke gathering has stripped the Gospel of its healing power.
"Today, we must change the narrative, seeking to understand more than to be understood… The Way of Jesus is better than a “left & right” or so-called “middle”. This is the Way."
On WHAT do they find a new Jesus Way, especially if they remove His death for sin from their 'narrative'? If no one is in need of saving, WHAT is the point? Based on what will they walk on into lah-lah-never-land of community when there is no law, no conviction or humility before God? It's deeply disturbing to see yet another self-worshiping 'church' in our city.
Many of the locals protested the downtown Pride Parade in Franklin - to no avail.
I'm also fascinated why anyone would want to attend such a gathering. If there's no call to change, no Scripture to defend and be held accountable to, if it's just another feel good about yourself meeting, I'd stay home.
Thank you for addressing this Anne.
"Church LARPing" is on the mark. You can tell by the way he floats the name "St. Luminous" that his definition of a "saint" is a kind of figure you dress up as for your local Renn Fest.
"If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!" (Matt 6:23b)
The fight for the Apostolic Faith will never cease until our Lord Christ returns. We are after all the church militant. Thanks for putting the spot light on this parish. Now is the time for discipline. The test is before the ACNA. Get it done with expediency and firmness. If this parish is allowed to remain the rot of unfaithfulness will fester.
C4SO MUST be jettisoned from the ACNA in order for the ACNA to maintain its legitimacy as a true Anglican province. The ACNA MUST center itself in the one true and holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Anything else is purely a lie which only serves to decieve the masses and placate the sinful.
Somebody is going to have to talk to Bishop Hunter about this parish, although from having listened to quite a few of Bishop Hunter's Peace Talks podcast, he seems to be right in line with them. Luminous Church has no business being in the ACNA and something needs to be done with them. Who will do it and how are two big questions.
C4SO, as a whole, including Hunter, have no business in the ACNA.
We need to be earnestly praying for God’s selection of our new Arch Bishop in our upcoming election. Not sure exactly when it is but it’s this month. Isn’t this part of his job? This must be dealt with.
At the very least, it would appear that they have scratched out Matthew 7:13-14 from all their pew bibles!
"When you skip the Law, of course you then have to skip the Gospel." I knew this, but had to re-learn it with tears back before the turn of the century when Frank Griswold's oleaginous approach to the gospel and the nature of God began to affect the fellowship I had with a close Episcopal friend. I think she still wonders why I couldn't bring myself to see our differences as merely another thing that could be swallowed up by a God who was bigger than all our various views of things.