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Sarah White's avatar

The Hays thing is really saddening. Reading Hays on sexual ethics is one of the things in the early ‘00s that helped turn me back to an orthodox view and this turn me around from a self-destructive path.

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The 2nd link in Anne’s “Take” Four deserves much attention, as it truly gets to the heart of the issue underlying the rapidly fading “evangelical” movement. Every church, every pastor, every Christian ministry should unequivocally declare where they stand on the issue of “universal” salvation (not in the sense that salvation is available to all, but in the sense that salvation is the ultimate outcome for every human who has ever lived):

“Their advice, not intentionally of course, is cruel since it promises final salvation for those headed for everlasting destruction. Such words may seem unduly harsh, but mercy only makes sense in a world where there is judgment, yes final judgment.4 And the witness of Scripture is clear: God doesn’t have mercy on all. Universalism is clearly outside the circle of God’s self-revelation as Michael McClymond has shown in his astoundingly excellent and massive study on the question.5”

“…but the picture given is skewed since they don’t reflect on the fact that virtually the whole world is destroyed in the flood, and the flood is picked up in the New Testament as a type of the judgment to come. Yes, mercy is available, but judgment isn’t withdrawn, as anyone reading Jesus’ words on the danger of hell realizes (Matt. 5:22, 29–30; 10:28; 18:9; Mark 9:43–49; Luke 12:5; cf. John 3:36).”

https://cbmw.org/2024/08/28/a-review-of-the-widening-of-gods-mercy-sexuality-within-the-biblical-story-by-christopher-b-hays-and-richard-b-hays/

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